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I think there's many different types of Spielberg. Every now and then, he likes to make a movie he wishes he could have seen as a child. Then he'll do a movie like Saving Private Ryan or a movie like Catch Me if You Can. The guy is just amazing.
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I like Spielberg but he's not one of my favorites, and I can't quantitatively say why. Like...his craft is excellent and when he hits he hits hard but there's just something about his films, maybe because he doesn't write his own stuff, that makes him feel so schizofrenic and just a general FEELING to his films that I don't like sometimes. Like AI...when I saw it I thought "there's good ideas in here, but it would have been AMAZING if Kubrick had lived to do it instead". I don't know...I am rambling.
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Well, I'm not sure I can turn your feelings around Allen with whatever I can say, but here goes:
I don't find him pretentious. I find that he has a particular style of writing/directing/comedy that won't impress everyone (maybe not modern audiences) but has been reportedly, consistently good since his landmark work in the 70s and 80s. For a guy in his mid-70s, I like that he still makes films (one every year) even though honestly, I haven't seen them all or made plans to do so (if the hype is strong enough, as it was with Midnight In Paris a couple of years back, I"ll seek it out). He's going to be a very prolific filmmaker by the time that he dies and the quality of his work (especially his later work) will be debated from here until the end of time in film snob circles. I've never heard/read about a film of this that's a true stinker; clearly, for admirers he's made lesser films but never a bad film (pretty much the same way I feel about, say, Scorsese).
I like that his style of comedy is dependent on dialogue and characters and mostly realistic setups, not the sitcom-level of rom-coms that we get today where people act like dicks and slapstick gets involved. Even the roles that Allen writes for himself don't paint him in the best of lights; he's usually a selfish schmuck that tries the best he can.
Basically, I love the fact that he still feels he has something to say about life, art, love, sometimes death and relationships. That's what his films are mostly about. So off he goes with small budgets and still manages to enlist A-list actors and the end results are usually effective but very rare to make best-of-year lists. I suppose Allen could care less. It makes me wonder if the tone of his work will change into something grimmer or death-related (although he has touched upon those areas long ago; he's a big fan of Ingmar Bergman) as he grows older. He's certainly made straight-up dramas before but his comedies will be remembered.
I'm not sure that helped. I'm writing this early in the morning and I haven't had my coffee yet. Here's what I think: should your wife convince you to take her to the film, you'll get a movie that's competently made and doesn't last very long (his films are usually in the 90-min to 2 hour range).
I'm not making any plans to see his new film but I've heard Cate Blanchett is good and even, of all people, Andrew Dice Clay is good.
I don't find him pretentious. I find that he has a particular style of writing/directing/comedy that won't impress everyone (maybe not modern audiences) but has been reportedly, consistently good since his landmark work in the 70s and 80s. For a guy in his mid-70s, I like that he still makes films (one every year) even though honestly, I haven't seen them all or made plans to do so (if the hype is strong enough, as it was with Midnight In Paris a couple of years back, I"ll seek it out). He's going to be a very prolific filmmaker by the time that he dies and the quality of his work (especially his later work) will be debated from here until the end of time in film snob circles. I've never heard/read about a film of this that's a true stinker; clearly, for admirers he's made lesser films but never a bad film (pretty much the same way I feel about, say, Scorsese).
I like that his style of comedy is dependent on dialogue and characters and mostly realistic setups, not the sitcom-level of rom-coms that we get today where people act like dicks and slapstick gets involved. Even the roles that Allen writes for himself don't paint him in the best of lights; he's usually a selfish schmuck that tries the best he can.
Basically, I love the fact that he still feels he has something to say about life, art, love, sometimes death and relationships. That's what his films are mostly about. So off he goes with small budgets and still manages to enlist A-list actors and the end results are usually effective but very rare to make best-of-year lists. I suppose Allen could care less. It makes me wonder if the tone of his work will change into something grimmer or death-related (although he has touched upon those areas long ago; he's a big fan of Ingmar Bergman) as he grows older. He's certainly made straight-up dramas before but his comedies will be remembered.
I'm not sure that helped. I'm writing this early in the morning and I haven't had my coffee yet. Here's what I think: should your wife convince you to take her to the film, you'll get a movie that's competently made and doesn't last very long (his films are usually in the 90-min to 2 hour range).
I'm not making any plans to see his new film but I've heard Cate Blanchett is good and even, of all people, Andrew Dice Clay is good.
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What's everyone's hatred for the last movie? I watched it in theatre and I had no beef with it. It's not my favorite, but I still thought it was good. Maybe it's because I grew up watching Shia Lawhatever on Even Stevens. was it the fact that there were aliens? The feel/tone of the movies were no different than the first 3 in my opinion.
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What's everyone's hatred for the last movie? I watched it in theatre and I had no beef with it. It's not my favorite, but I still thought it was good. Maybe it's because I grew up watching Shia Lawhatever on Even Stevens. was it the fact that there were aliens? The feel/tone of the movies were no different than the first 3 in my opinion.
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Oh shit! Avid's got another essay/list!
RUN FOR YOUR FUCKING LIVES!!!!
1. Every other film in the series has a macguffin (The Lost Ark, Shankra stones, Holy Grail) that is well-defined and explained just enough so you'll know how it'll benefit the good guys or the bad. The Crystal Skull didn't receive this treatment. Neither party (nor the audience) knows what it does or what will happen if they return it to where it belongs. It's convoluted and drains tension out of the movie.
2. I never thought any of the anyone was in danger. For example, I think the jungle chase scene was well-shot and choreographed but over-dependent on CGI. The fact that Vic Armstrong, a legendary stuntman and stunt coordinator (who worked on all previous films and was Ford's stunt double), was not hired for this movie hurt it. The Indiana Jones films are notable for its life-threatening, crazy stunts, the variety of which you only see now in Indonesian action films. Here, you miss that and it doesn't really help that some actors (Karen Allen in particular) are not taking it seriously and are grinning the whole way. Is it surprising that the only "good guy" that dies is the Winstone's backstabber?
3. The script is basically a Frankenstein monster of other ideas, rather than a single, laser focused vision where the plot elements come together. A lot of writers submitted scripts for a 4th film, like Frank Darabont or M. Night Shymalan, but it looks like Lucas took elements out of them and cobbled them together for the final draft. (I think Darabont's script may still be available as a pdf file) It has a "too many cooks in the kitchen" feel. An impressive thing about "Raiders" is Lawrence Kasdan's masterful ability to deliver enough exposition and action beats and keep a steady pace. It's very focused. On "Crystal Skull", people were bitching left and right about how there's too much exposition. I think the film is structured to be a slow-burn for it's first hour and then ramp up for the remainder but its so uncharacteristic for an Indiana Jones film.
4. Ill-defined supporting characters. I could've sworn they'd go somewhere with Blanchett's supposed psychic ability. Nope. I like Ray Winstone but I never gave a shit about his character (C.I.A. my ass, he's a greedy, back-stabbing prick and nothing more). It was great to see Karen Allen again but Marion is given nothing to do here, other than grin a lot.
Then there's Shia. Look, I don't think he's a bad actor. I think he chooses roles where he often feels miscast. The guy looks like he'd be great in a comedy and he's always doing darker, mature drama or action films where he sticks out like a sore thumb. I've recall some reviews of Crystal Skull where some people felt Mutt didn't make sense on a conceptual-level (and to have him related to Jones made many cringe) but all I think about is how he's not really necessary. I loved the '50s setting and Mutt's a tie to that (especially in his Marlon Brando/The Wild Ones entrance) but I don't feel that he makes much of a difference. He quit school but he's a fencing master? Short Round, he's not.
Those are big things for me. Do I think the film overall is horrible? Absolutely not. (not once did I mention the nuke or the fridge) It's just that there's a difference between this and Raiders: one is a competently well-made actioner that has some flaws; the other is a classic that I'll be watching years/decades from now.
Most of the action scenes are great. Spielberg knows how to stage these sequences (with or without CGI) and I thought the motorcycle chase scene in the first half was fun. Harrison Ford's performance is great, his best work in a long time. The way that Jones accepts his old age and outsmarts everyone puts a smile on my face.
As you can see, I got carried away here. Just one of those things.
RUN FOR YOUR FUCKING LIVES!!!!
1. Every other film in the series has a macguffin (The Lost Ark, Shankra stones, Holy Grail) that is well-defined and explained just enough so you'll know how it'll benefit the good guys or the bad. The Crystal Skull didn't receive this treatment. Neither party (nor the audience) knows what it does or what will happen if they return it to where it belongs. It's convoluted and drains tension out of the movie.
2. I never thought any of the anyone was in danger. For example, I think the jungle chase scene was well-shot and choreographed but over-dependent on CGI. The fact that Vic Armstrong, a legendary stuntman and stunt coordinator (who worked on all previous films and was Ford's stunt double), was not hired for this movie hurt it. The Indiana Jones films are notable for its life-threatening, crazy stunts, the variety of which you only see now in Indonesian action films. Here, you miss that and it doesn't really help that some actors (Karen Allen in particular) are not taking it seriously and are grinning the whole way. Is it surprising that the only "good guy" that dies is the Winstone's backstabber?
3. The script is basically a Frankenstein monster of other ideas, rather than a single, laser focused vision where the plot elements come together. A lot of writers submitted scripts for a 4th film, like Frank Darabont or M. Night Shymalan, but it looks like Lucas took elements out of them and cobbled them together for the final draft. (I think Darabont's script may still be available as a pdf file) It has a "too many cooks in the kitchen" feel. An impressive thing about "Raiders" is Lawrence Kasdan's masterful ability to deliver enough exposition and action beats and keep a steady pace. It's very focused. On "Crystal Skull", people were bitching left and right about how there's too much exposition. I think the film is structured to be a slow-burn for it's first hour and then ramp up for the remainder but its so uncharacteristic for an Indiana Jones film.
4. Ill-defined supporting characters. I could've sworn they'd go somewhere with Blanchett's supposed psychic ability. Nope. I like Ray Winstone but I never gave a shit about his character (C.I.A. my ass, he's a greedy, back-stabbing prick and nothing more). It was great to see Karen Allen again but Marion is given nothing to do here, other than grin a lot.
Then there's Shia. Look, I don't think he's a bad actor. I think he chooses roles where he often feels miscast. The guy looks like he'd be great in a comedy and he's always doing darker, mature drama or action films where he sticks out like a sore thumb. I've recall some reviews of Crystal Skull where some people felt Mutt didn't make sense on a conceptual-level (and to have him related to Jones made many cringe) but all I think about is how he's not really necessary. I loved the '50s setting and Mutt's a tie to that (especially in his Marlon Brando/The Wild Ones entrance) but I don't feel that he makes much of a difference. He quit school but he's a fencing master? Short Round, he's not.
Those are big things for me. Do I think the film overall is horrible? Absolutely not. (not once did I mention the nuke or the fridge) It's just that there's a difference between this and Raiders: one is a competently well-made actioner that has some flaws; the other is a classic that I'll be watching years/decades from now.
Most of the action scenes are great. Spielberg knows how to stage these sequences (with or without CGI) and I thought the motorcycle chase scene in the first half was fun. Harrison Ford's performance is great, his best work in a long time. The way that Jones accepts his old age and outsmarts everyone puts a smile on my face.
As you can see, I got carried away here. Just one of those things.
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I understand that it's not the best, but it isn't as horrid as people make it out to be. Shia would be really good in a comedy, he's got a great eye for comedy. Maybe they'll make another Even Stevens movie!
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Just got back from seeing Elysium. It's a fun ride, full of violence, heart, black humor and satire just like District 9 (although I think that's the better film). Damon is good as always but Sharlto Copley steals the movie; he clearly had a good time playing a demented soldier of fortune.
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Hello, I return. While I was gone I saw two movies (this is writing a lot like a high school essay now =p):
1. Kaze Tachinu (no idea what the English title is): Hayao Miyazaki's new film is unlike any of his previous stuff. Ghibli has always been led by two directors, Miyazaki who's always done the more fantastical/crowd pleasing stuff and takahata who's always done the more down to earth, quiet stuff and it looks like they switched places. Kaze Tachinu is a quiet, contemplative, biopic. Very good, but very different for Miyazaki. The writing and pacing feel a bit...off in places, but overall it feels like a very personal movie for Miyazaki (whose father designed aircraft) and an interesting casting choice of getting another director to voice act the main character. Beautiful animation as always, few finer details I probably missed do to language barriers but overall I want to see it again.
2. Pacific Rim - I REALLY wanted to like this movie more than I did. Giant robots, giant monsters, yay! THe first 10 minutes was AWESOME, it had bitchin' moments but it just REEKED of script rewrites. They should have gone full-silly, full over the top on this movie but instead we get these moments of half baked drama. Character arks that are happening independent of the action scenes instead of working through them during. A weak premise that is paced a bit funky, a total lack of whacky robot powers. Also, the editing of the fight scenes at times was awful. I'll say it once, I'll say it again, action directors, you cut close to hide an actor's lack of talent or to create tension. You don't just do it because that's what you do in an action sequence. I got lost during some of the ifght scenes spacially because it was super close cut, which is odd considering we're supposed to be watching giant behemoths fighting.
1. Kaze Tachinu (no idea what the English title is): Hayao Miyazaki's new film is unlike any of his previous stuff. Ghibli has always been led by two directors, Miyazaki who's always done the more fantastical/crowd pleasing stuff and takahata who's always done the more down to earth, quiet stuff and it looks like they switched places. Kaze Tachinu is a quiet, contemplative, biopic. Very good, but very different for Miyazaki. The writing and pacing feel a bit...off in places, but overall it feels like a very personal movie for Miyazaki (whose father designed aircraft) and an interesting casting choice of getting another director to voice act the main character. Beautiful animation as always, few finer details I probably missed do to language barriers but overall I want to see it again.
2. Pacific Rim - I REALLY wanted to like this movie more than I did. Giant robots, giant monsters, yay! THe first 10 minutes was AWESOME, it had bitchin' moments but it just REEKED of script rewrites. They should have gone full-silly, full over the top on this movie but instead we get these moments of half baked drama. Character arks that are happening independent of the action scenes instead of working through them during. A weak premise that is paced a bit funky, a total lack of whacky robot powers. Also, the editing of the fight scenes at times was awful. I'll say it once, I'll say it again, action directors, you cut close to hide an actor's lack of talent or to create tension. You don't just do it because that's what you do in an action sequence. I got lost during some of the ifght scenes spacially because it was super close cut, which is odd considering we're supposed to be watching giant behemoths fighting.
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Charlie Day is the only reason I want to watch Pacific Rim.
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I love Charlie Day. Still want to see PR for many other reasons though.
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Like District 9, there's handheld camerawork in the action scenes but I think the director is one of the handful (like Paul Greengrass or Kathryn Bigelow) who knows how to shoot action with that equipment (more importantly they know how to edit that footage). I haven't seen The Wolverine but I did see Into Darkness and I wasn't bothered by the camerawork (although the previous Star Trek did have that problem, I'll admit).pspiddy wrote:I'm on the fence about Elysium. It looks like a cool movie but between the last 1/3 of Wolverine and all of Star Trek, I think I'm full on CGI and shaky camera action. Unless you can tell me it doesn't go overboard with those things, I think I'll wait for Blu-Ray.
I think the world-building (between the look of cities on Earth and Elysium) is creative and immersive and the CGI was well done. And I was never lost during the action scenes.
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In Pacific Rim, I can recall one shot during the final underwater fight that I can't make out which Jaeger is shown. Otherwise I found the action scenes comprehensible.
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Yeah, I don't know, both me and my GF had the same problem. Maybe it was just us. What'd you think of the movie over all avid?
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Pacific Rim? I really enjoyed it. It has a good balance between campy fun and the right amount of drama and tension. Some have said it has bad acting or writing but I disagree.
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I would be one of those people. Just going to throw this all in a spoiler tag to be safe:
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- I thought the "we have to go and drop a bomb in the rift" thing was a lazy plot device that stopped there from being an escalation against a single villain. The big villain (the little aliens sending them out) felt horribly underdeveloped because of that. What if the plot was that there was one "master" monster that was generating clones of itself and they had to trick it into surfacing and then kill it. Yes, maybe predictable, but no more so than the device they did use, and it would have resulted in a final escalating climax against one big monster instead of the kind of rushed final fight they had. Then hey, it's more commercially viable too because they leave more sequel potential there. Not to mention WERE the monsters going after Newt or was it just a coincidence. If they did learn something from Charly what did they learn since he was pretty involved in classified stuff. There was just a lot more potential to play with the characters and the plot and I feel it could have been a lot more...well, fun, if they did.
The characters had so much potential to be cool and campy (FUCKING RUSSIAN TWINS...YES!) but then they just kill them off before any of their character development can happen. I'm not hoping for Shakespeare in my giant monster movie or anything but some more solid character motivations wouldn't have been amiss.
The killing of the other characters also meant the the whole team dynamic completely being shut down. Mako's "chasing the rabbit" thing is brought up once, then subsequently shelved for the rest of the movie. They had a potential to develop them getting in and out of sync during a fight and building tension and completely threw it out. Supposedly characters have to have a very strong connection to sync but then Mako just syncs because the main character seemingly just finds her hot. This happens again when Stringer, I mean, whatever his character's name is syncs with the australian dude because he has him figured out...that's it, no other reason other than he has to because it's convenient for the plot.
And this is stuff that was just personal preference but aren't really needed in the film to "work" (in my opinion):
I really wanted there to be a kind of escalating reveal of cool robot powers instead of their main power being to punch people. Where was the bitchin' chest laser?
I just wanted it to be more campy. Giant fighting robots shouldn't take itself seriously.
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It's been a couple of weeks since I've seen it so I'll try my best to remember certain things in formulating a response. Also, I've commented on some points with a spoiler tag if I felt it was necessary. There's a link later on that I think people interested in the film (or have seen it) should read. I include it to make a point, yes, but it's good all on its own.
In a time where most movies feel they need to have cliffhangers or leave setups for sequels (in case the initial film is really successful financially) it felt good that Pacific Rim seemed to have a definitive end. I really don't know what can be said after this one and Del Toro has so many projects on his plate (and he's not getting any younger) that I think he'd want to move on. There was some talks about a sequel but until anything is official, I feel I can breathe easy.
Now, the character development on part of the other teams. Here comes the tricky part and I have two ways of responding to this:
1. Their development is purely visual. I'm not sure if the script ever had more material for them or if additional footage was shot or that the shooting schedule didn't allow for more/equal attention to the other Jaeger pilots. It could be one or two of those possibilities or all three. The decision to focus on Raleigh/Mako, Stacker and the two Aussie pilots could've been an economical choice, in that you wouldn't have so many personalities to juggle (case in point: in The Hurt Locker, the EOD unit is 3 soldiers when in reality its usually 10-11 soldiers; by paring it down to 3, you have 3 distinct personalities to focus on). The Russian and Chinese pilots are defined entirely by their look, posture and behavior during battle. The film also takes place in a period where these teams have been operating for some time and we're just dropping in at a certain point.
2. On another private message board, there was a debate on this very issue and one member linked this article, which touches upon how on the film conveys information visually about characters, especially Mako. It's a well-written article and it makes a better case than I can (especially given its context).
There you have it. *smokebomb*
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- I don't see how it makes a difference whether the big baddie is one big alien or a group of aliens. Day's character says that it's a group/counsel of conquerors so if that's the setup, so be it.
In a time where most movies feel they need to have cliffhangers or leave setups for sequels (in case the initial film is really successful financially) it felt good that Pacific Rim seemed to have a definitive end. I really don't know what can be said after this one and Del Toro has so many projects on his plate (and he's not getting any younger) that I think he'd want to move on. There was some talks about a sequel but until anything is official, I feel I can breathe easy.
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- The Kaijus were searching after Day's character. His attempt to sync with a Kaiju brain alerted his presence to other Kaijus since (as Perlman's character says) the link was two-way and that Kaijus have a hive mind.
Now, the character development on part of the other teams. Here comes the tricky part and I have two ways of responding to this:
1. Their development is purely visual. I'm not sure if the script ever had more material for them or if additional footage was shot or that the shooting schedule didn't allow for more/equal attention to the other Jaeger pilots. It could be one or two of those possibilities or all three. The decision to focus on Raleigh/Mako, Stacker and the two Aussie pilots could've been an economical choice, in that you wouldn't have so many personalities to juggle (case in point: in The Hurt Locker, the EOD unit is 3 soldiers when in reality its usually 10-11 soldiers; by paring it down to 3, you have 3 distinct personalities to focus on). The Russian and Chinese pilots are defined entirely by their look, posture and behavior during battle. The film also takes place in a period where these teams have been operating for some time and we're just dropping in at a certain point.
2. On another private message board, there was a debate on this very issue and one member linked this article, which touches upon how on the film conveys information visually about characters, especially Mako. It's a well-written article and it makes a better case than I can (especially given its context).
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- Regarding Stacker syncing up with the younger Aussie pilot: I think certain info about his character (his history as a accomplished Jaeger pilot, his impending death due to cancer caused by radiation exposure from poor radiation shielding on those early Jaeger models) sets up his decision to join the fight. The older Aussie can't join because he's injured; who else is going to suit up? Given how ferocious that last fight is, it's a good thing Gipsy Danger didn't go in alone. Again, I don't remember the details as to how Stacker is a better fit to sync up with the Aussie pilot. I'll admit, it may be a throwaway detail, but it didn't ruin anything.
"Supposedly characters have to have a very strong connection to sync but then Mako just syncs because the main character seemingly just finds her hot."
They're an attractive (potential) couple, but I don't think that's the reason. In the training scene, Raleigh recognizes Mako as the primary candidate for a partner due to how they spar with each other. Both characters are suppressing traumatic memories and the fact that the syncing allows two damaged people to connect and work together makes them the best possible pair. Remember, they share each other's thoughts and memories. It doesn't start off well at first but eventually they find common ground and respect/trust each other. It's not a romantic pairing in the conventional sense.
There you have it. *smokebomb*
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I didn't really get the sparring scene. Like they didn't establish what they were going for. Again, I'm all for stupid action movies, but like so many action movies these days I see the dialogue and the stuff that makes one invested in the fight scenes getting neglected. Movies like Die Hard work because everything around the fight scenes builds up that character and the villains so you get more invested (as one of many examples of a good action movie). I just felt this one couldn't decide what tone it wanted to take. And trust me, I am happy it ended and didn't sequelize itself, I just felt the build up was underwhelming.
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I'm watching Final Fantasy VII Advent Children, and it's one of the most confusing movies ever. The music is awesome though.
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Watching Skyfall on Epix. God, I love this movie.
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Advent Children kind of ignored all of the character's actual story arks from the game and kind of changed them. They made Cloud into a whiny bitch because they felt that's what the kiddies respond to these days.
Saw 2 movies today. Not in the mood to go into depth but
1. This is the End - was very pleasantly surprised by this movie. Expected nothing and laughed quite a bit. Danny Mcbride...nailed it.
2. Wag the Dog - very unimpressed with this. I'm someone who can suspend disbelief pretty easily but when it's political stuff or drama/dialogue heavy stuff I want things to make sense and this film was just too far off the mark for me.
Saw 2 movies today. Not in the mood to go into depth but
1. This is the End - was very pleasantly surprised by this movie. Expected nothing and laughed quite a bit. Danny Mcbride...nailed it.
2. Wag the Dog - very unimpressed with this. I'm someone who can suspend disbelief pretty easily but when it's political stuff or drama/dialogue heavy stuff I want things to make sense and this film was just too far off the mark for me.
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