Next Gen Consoles

Haha

I like Steam, Sony and MS embracing "indie" games. Passion seems to beat greed in the long run. There are so many tools available that realising a dream game is at virtually anyone's fingertips. As a gamer I love it. Entry prices need to be more like when Guacamelee launched for $10 on psn plus.

What I don't like is this stupid ass discussion about F2P, microtransactions, episodic big budget games, DLC or whatever the fuck any company with a shareholder mentions on any given day. At least the platforms are going to be more universal. Except for the "exclusive" bullshit. I hope people pirate the shit out of any game that uses that word incorrectly.

I found this and wow, don't know what to say: https://www.change.org/petitions/microsoft-give-us-back-the-xbox-one-we-were-promised-at-e3-2

That is fucking hilarious, I wonder who she is

Kayshire Cat wrote:
Except this one I can tell this dumb bitch was being completely serious

 


PSN and XBL are such pieces of shit. I hope the next gen fixes these unintuitive clusterfucks. So many things are wrong about both services that it would be too exhausting to list. But hey, Kinect will be able to direct-market you now! Fucking assholes.

There was a video on Kotaku about PS4 features that someone was nice enough to put into list form:

1. New interface (Called PS dynamic menu)
2. Comes with 500gb HDD
3. Allows to transfer profile to other systems
4. Allowed a home console which allows access to your content to all users on the console
5. Comes with an HDMI cord
6. Not region locked
7. Can shoot in 3D and in high quality
8. PS camera has 4 microphones to figure out where sound come froms
9. Video unlimited will, for the first time on PS, be able to stream.
10. PS will, in most cases, be able to instantly switch between apps
11. The touch pad on controller is also a button
12. PS app coming out for Android and iOS devices around launch, functions likes smart glass in that it allows you mobile access to your console and to work in certain games.
13. Cross game chat
14. Has always on video compression/decompression systems so you can share the last few minutes of gameplay. Can upload footage in the background
15. Has a suspend mood
16. Secondary chip for updates and downloads
17. Gaiki for PS3 games
18. PS + memberships will roll onto PS4
19. Sony Pictures working on content for PS4
20. 140 games in the works.

^ Sounds like some nice features.

I'm still debating if I want to preorder one or not. Do I want one? Yes, oh yes I do. With planning a wedding coming and funds being an issue, it's something I'm debating if I desperately need. The game that makes me want it above all else is the new Killzone game. I love Killzone. In fact, I think I'm the biggest Killzone supporter on the club. Another problem is the onslaught of great PS3 games still to come. Games like Puppeteer, Final Fantasy X and X-2 in HD, new Ratchet game, GTA V, etc... My PS3 still has so much life left in it. If there wasn't a wedding coming I'd be all over this. Anyone else like me where they want it so bad but don't necessarily need it and have other monetary commitments that are making you question your purchase? The Killzone bundle is once again back on amazon, and I want it so bad, but I just don't know if I should do it.

I'm with you, Bret, on not needing it but salivating over it. Unless my wife surprises me, I'm holding off. I did a count of all of my PS3 and Vita games and it's just stupid. And those platforms look to be going strong for a good time to come. When Destiny drops I'll make the jump, but launch isn't offering me anything. But there's still time for a major announcement.

I have made the decision to jump on the next cool SE 3DS and fuck beans if it isn't Poke'mon X/Y. And I'm really hoping for a Black Friday WiiU bundle. Something along the lines of that insane AC Vita deal on Amazon last year.

There are games I want for it, but there are more games for the PS3 I'm still excited about. It's a dilemma, that's for sure. Plus I got the sweet 20th anniversary edition of Nirvana's In Utero coming out. I'm gonna spend around $200 on those.

I'd be happy to stick with my PS3 another year. Tales of Xillia 2 comes out next year, among other things. But my wife already preordered a PS4 for me. I'll probably get The Order: 1886, but I'm really waiting for Final Fantasy XV and Kingdom Hearts 3. Hopefully there will be other announcements.

I originally didn't want a PS4. Then I wanted one just to spite MS. That ended up getting me hyped even though MS changed it. Helps that Killzone is making the exact changes I wanted the series to make.

I have to admit, the launch lineup doesn't have me particularly enthused, but I just sort of want it... so I'll be getting it. I do like the hardware alot. I do really want Watch Dogs (and not the sure to be shit current gen version). The rational part of my mind says I don't need a PS4 at launch, the other part of my mind says "Fuck it who cares, new PlayStation!" Obviously it will pay off in the long run. I definitely don't blame people for waiting especially those planning a wedding.

I also see myself playing the PS3 more for the time being. Though I could see myself buying some launch games that don't excite me much just to be playing the PS4. Hopefully some of them surprise me and are cool.

Killzone does look interesting and Watch Dogs is DEFINITELY to be played on next gen. Fighting the "oooh look a new shiny" is dfficult. It's not that buying on launch is a bad investment, it's what we're all saying about how much awesome is still left in PS3.

Now if there were backwards compatibility I'm sure I speak for everyone here that there would be zero hesitation.

pspiddy wrote:Killzone does look interesting and Watch Dogs is DEFINITELY to be played on next gen. Fighting the "oooh look a new shiny" is dfficult. It's not that buying on launch is a bad investment, it's what we're all saying about how much awesome is still left in PS3.

Now if there were backwards compatibility I'm sure I speak for everyone here that there would be zero hesitation.

Quoted for truth. As slow as the Wii U's launch has been, that's one good thing it has going for it: I can play the Wii games I haven't finished yet on it. And Earthbound has been a pretty sweet game.

I just don't understand why they leave that feature out? I know hardware sales of the PS3 would drop, but software sales would pick up. Plus, they know it's something gamers want. Underneath my TV stand I don't have anymore room for a new system. Would have been nice to take the PS3 out and replace it with a PS4. It's never a deal breaker for me, but I know for others it is.

I don't think Sony or MS could technologically have BC this gen without raising the price to PC levels. And what their both trying to do with their infrastructure would be crazy problematic and expensive. Look at how terrible 360 was with compatibility.  And the PS3 was expensive and allowed for hacks. (Yes, fuck Sony for the nickel and diming bullshit)

From a business standpoint it makes sense. But both of their explanations are stupid and reek of boat shoes and hair plugs. I should fucking charge for saying in a direct manner that they can't because they suck at PR. They'd damn well charge me if roles were reversed.

Too many "their" that should be they're to change from my phone.

BretBaber wrote:I just don't understand why they leave that feature out?  I know hardware sales of the PS3 would drop, but software sales would pick up.  Plus, they know it's something gamers want.  Underneath my TV stand I don't have anymore room for a new system.  Would have been nice to take the PS3 out and replace it with a PS4.  It's never a deal breaker for me, but I know for others it is.

Too much difference between the architecture of the PS3's Cell and the x86 processor that will be used in the PS4. Sony would either have to include a Cell and PS3 GPU on the PS4 motherboard - which the first-gen PS3s did with regards to PS2 compatibility, only to have Sony drop that idea for cost-cutting - or include software-based emulation, and that would stress out the PS4's CPU.

I just wish they would push a premium bundle that included BC. With the troubles of the 60gb and the original pricing fiasco I can understand why they don't. Or imagine if they opened up the platform for modding...

I would personally be all for some kind of adapter that would allow backward compatibility with PS1/PS2/PS3 titles on PS4. I'd love to have an all-in-one PlayStation console like I do now with my PS3 60-gigger. Unfortunately, there isn't enough demand for that sort of thing.

I get why backwards compatibility is bothering a lot of people, but it's not that much of an issue to me this gen with the PS4. I plan on keeping my PS3 so it's just a matter of shelf and outlet space, which isn't that big of a deal. Still am going to get annoyed when PS3 collections start coming out for PS4 though, but I'm sure I'll buy the Mass Effect one.

Yeah...still gonna hold off a year but there's stuff coming down the pipe that unless my life changes drastically I'll be getting it eventually for sure.

As for MS...I'm still bugged just in my gut. Yeah, they changed stuff, but it doesn't change that they're just backpeddling. It's like if you had a friend who said something to insult you then took it back. Yeah...he took it back but he still had the mindset to say it in the first place. Just says to me that they don't have their customer's best interest in mind, they're just backpeddling in a desperate attempt to still get some money out of the whole thing.

I can't really agree with that because it's not like when you find out a friend thinks that way. Video game companies try that shit all the time, but if EA, Ubisoft, or Activision make a game I really want to play, I'll still buy it. The only difference is MS makes a console which is a lot more of a long term investment than an individual game to experiment with that anti-consumer crap.

And honestly, I don't think Sony planned to go the other route the whole time. Reports were saying they didn't decide until a few hours before their conference, I think they were trying to figure out if being customer friendly really would help them more than putting all those restrictions. I'm still going PS4 100% and respect Sony more than MS, but I'm not going to act like this changes my perception of them.

Yeah, I suppose that is true, they're not the only ones to have done shit like this. It's just my integrity meter flashing.

However Sony decided to go about this route, I'm glad they did. There isn't anything insidious about it. Sony just saw an opportunity to cozy up to consumers that hated Microsoft's ham-fisted DRM policies and took it. That's one thing I like about competition: it forces companies to see who can make consumers happier. And as a bonus, Sony made MS reconsider some of their uglier practices with regards to the Xbone. I'm still PlayStation all the way, but it's always positive when shit like MS was trying to pull gets soundly rejected by the market. The next generation, they'll probably try to be all-digital and possibly all-cloud. But the tougher the market makes it for them to pull stunts like that, the better for everyone.

Yeah, I get that San Andreas. That's why I respect Sony for going the way they did. But acting like that changes the way I see MS, no I wouldn't put this past either of them. MS could have very easily pretended the Xbox brand was strong enough they could keep these features, but they admitted they weren't a good choice. Sony gets my support for what happened, but I'm not going to boycott MS over trying the same kind of shit EA and Ubisoft would do if they had a console.

I can understand why some people have brand loyalty. The only way MS lost me is with kinect. A thousand times NO! And with the 360, I sold it because there were, not hyperbole, like 2 or 3 exclusives. I liked the machine and all, but my computer is much, much better.

I hope that when everything finally goes digital, STEAM is the standard in pricing. It gets on my nerves how pricing is on XBL and PSN. Almost as much as how buying a physical copy nets you a box with a game and maybe some advertisements.

The former head dude of STEAM is headed over to MS to sort out the laughable GFWL. Not sure what that means for Xbone but it couldn't hurt.

Talking to myself here...

This late push for this gen consoles reminds me of 1997. I am honestly taken aback by how much awesomeness has happened regardless of next gen launches. Feels like genesis vs snes stuff. What do you guys think?