Next Gen Consoles

Ha, perhaps it's silly to openly advertise that I emulate everything on the intarwebs. But Emulators are awesome and allow me to experience awesome classics without buying a Nintendo next gen console =p

Oh I have no problem with people that use emulators. I just don't particularly enjoy them. It never feels right for me. I know its the same game... but it always feels off. Maybe its my conscious telling me its wrong. Haha

TheMatt wrote:Oh I have no problem with people that use emulators. I just don't particularly enjoy them. It never feels right for me. I know its the same game... but it always feels off. Maybe its my conscious telling me its wrong. Haha

I have never known an emulated console game to play, look, or sound as good on a PC emulator as on either its native console or on an official Nintendo download. To me, emulated games look and sound like shit. The only stuff I've ever emulated was stuff that was completely unavailable through any other means - fan translations of never-localized games like Seiken Densetsu 3 or Tales of Phantasia and certain MAME arcade games that never had releases at home.

Maybe that's what it is. Also, the only games that I prefer mouse and keyboard over a controller are those made by Blizzard. The only game I'd love to emulate is the fan translation to Mother 3... but I've never been able to get that to work correctly.

TheMatt wrote:Maybe that's what it is. Also, the only games that I prefer mouse and keyboard over a controller are those made by Blizzard. The only game I'd love to emulate is the fan translation to Mother 3... but I've never been able to get that to work correctly.

Every emulator I've seen supports USB gamepads. I use a Logitech controller laid out like a PlayStation controller myself. But the gameplay seems off and the graphics and sound are always absolute shit compared to how the games look and sound on a regular console.

I haven't had much trouble emulating anything that isn't disc-based, though I've mostly just used them for Nintendo games. Project 64 can actually make N64 games look better than ever and it's super easy to set up a controller. The only problem I had with it was getting the analog sensitivity right. There was another SNES emulator that was pretty good, too. I'd still prefer virtual console games on a 3DS, though

Yeah, never emulated anything either. There was a time I was going to consider it but didn't. I have no problem with people who do it, I just don't do it myself because like Matt said, it feels just off to me. And as for more games, E3 will either make or break the Wii U, so hopefully Nintendo can turn everything around for them.

I'm still reading through some of this, but this page seems to have some details in it about the Xbox One connectivity and used game stuff:

http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/main

Well at the three links on that page.

It's definitely not the same but buying a SNES and compatible TV are a bit out of the cards.

TripOpt55 wrote:I'm still reading through some of this, but this page seems to have some details in it about the Xbox One connectivity and used game stuff:

http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/main

Well at the three links on that page.

At this point I think M$ is just trying to piss me off. I hope they don't inspire other companies/industries to push anti-consumer practices to this extent. It boggles my mind how these policies made it through the brainstorm phase in the first place. Hope $ony doesn't pull similar crap.

Actually I've been wondering: if Sony does the same kind of things MS is doing would you still get a PS4. No way I'd put up with always online and restricted used games especially since I have no clue what my financial and internet situation will be 3 years from now. But what about the rest of you?

Not a chance in hell. I'd just migrate to Steam and WiiU which I have already done and plan on doing respectively. I also plan on picking up a 3DS so as far as I'm concerned, $ony is on thin ice as it is.

If the PS4 pulls the crap MS is doing then no thanks.

Yeah...it comes down to companies treating the consumers with respect. Which this doesn't at all. This has been a pretty shitty series of announcements because you know what htey're not announcing? F-ing GAMES for the damn things, which is the only thing we care about.

Right, it's the games that make the console.

I'm glad the press and gamers alike are just killing MS for this stuff.

Post some links, Trip. All I've read (besides the usual Kotaku trolling) is excuses. Especially on PA Report. This "future of gaming" bullshit is especially annoying/tiresome. The future of gaming is the electronic dartboard I picked up at a clearance mall for $3, assclowns.

Sure. Here are a few:

Polygon

Xbox One's game licensing policy was written from the ground up for companies. It's aggressively anti-consumer and anti-middle class, and it outright ignores underprivileged gamers. It's gross, despicable, greedy, pathetic, cowardly and out of touch with a growing global resentment for corporations.

Eurogamer

The fact that Microsoft's policies governing game ownership, sharing and privacy are not surprising does not make them any less devastating to consumer rights, should they be formally adopted and become a standard. They sacrifice our freedom to own and trade games for no other reason than corporate self-interest.

Nowgamer

If one thing was made transparently clear with the latest round of Xbox One announcements, it's that Microsoft is no longer worried about pleasing you.

I could add some more.

Wow. That's refreshing. Now on to Eurogamer to read that article...

Oh, and thanks.

*edit* Holy shit that article is awesome. It says everything I've been thinking/feeling (especially the iTunes BS*) but without all the cursing and bad grammar.

*Apple and iTunes are shit. M$ isn't very far behind.

I still don't get the whole piracy thing. Not that people do or do not do it, but that they want to take sides. The more I read about the facade of anti-piracy, the less fucks I give. The more I read about how it sells more legit copies, the less fucks I give.

Gaming is a serious hobby for me. If these consoles can't hack it (no pun...or pun if you'd like) I can find other ways to spend cash. I just want to play games, damnit.

This randomness brought to you by reading the "Spin-offs" thread. No, emulators don't hold a candle to the original platform.

pspiddy wrote:I still don't get the whole piracy thing. Not that people do or do not do it, but that they want to take sides. The more I read about the facade of anti-piracy, the less fucks I give. The more I read about how it sells more legit copies, the less fucks I give.

Gaming is a serious hobby for me. If these consoles can't hack it (no pun...or pun if you'd like) I can find other ways to spend cash. I just want to play games, damnit.

This randomness brought to you by reading the "Spin-offs" thread. No, emulators don't hold a candle to the original platform.

On consoles, the boogeyman is the used-game market, which from the standpoint of the suits in the executive boardroom of a publisher, is pretty much the same thing as piracy. They'd charge admission for every single person if they could find a way. But does Ubisoft seriously think eliminating used games will make Assassin's Creed magically jump from 10 million copies sold to 20 million copies sold? Does EA really think eliminating used games will turn its finances around? Maybe if they'd stop pissing away money buying and gutting studios they'd make more money? SMH.

Yes. And it really gets to me that I, as a gamer, am paying their salary. They exist because I exist. Seems reason enough to keep me happy. How piracy fits into that is anybody's guess. Maybe I don't get it though. Maybe piracy and used games are the entire problem, because, like, businesses mever plateau or anything. That's why DRM saved beanie babies. Right?

They've proved numerous times there is no link, I repeat NO link between people pirating things and a loss of sales. They also proved in studies that people who pirate and consume media (as in buy it) buy more than people who ONLY buy media and don't pirate at all.

Now I'm all for fighting shoddy business practices at companies like gamespot. Am I completely against used games as an institution? Fuck no. If someone wants to trade in their games and get a bit of money back towards another purchase or buy a game for $20 cheaper that's cool with me.

It's an industry that doesn't want to accept responsibility for:

1. The fact their industry has grown and inevitably is going to start getting piracy/things that take away from their bottom line. Movies were completely safe when you could only consume them in celluloid/freakout comes when VHS makes it possible watch/copy shit. Music was completely safe when you couldn't take it away from the performance/freakout when people can copy it and share it...etc etc.

2. The fact that they're not innovating in gameplay/making better games. You know why profits are down? Because they're spending $4 million to make some piece of shit 3rd person shooter that has the gameplay quality of a wet piece of cardboard. So when that profit doesn't come back the only reason they can think of is "THE DAMN PIRATES/USED MARKET!"


In my ever present stance to remain neutral on all things I can see why certain aspects of the used game industry are bullshit. I'm happy to rally against companies like gamestop who try to weasel out of putting new merchandise on their shelves and treat their employees like shit. But yeah, it's definitely the boogeyman of our time.

And I'm hoping that consumers can actually make a stand and either force them to change their console design to take out this anti-consumer bullshit or let them die by not buying the next round just because it's new.

T-wolf, thank you, once again, for stating shit so I don't have to. Even though the study was in Britain, it's still valid :p

There was actually a few in some US universities as well (I'm fairly sure)

It'll be interesting if $ony tries to out-dumbass M$. Something like the AT&T/Vita debacle.

I think MS is going to do some redesigns on the console...I think consumer pressure will force some of the features out.

That is if people aren't like "FUCK MICROSOFT...here's my money though."