Re: Ni no Kuni discussion

by SanAndreasX Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:56 pm

The first part of the game was awesome enough, but the second part is getting into mindfuck territory. I like Ni no Kuni better and better the more I play it.

by BretBaber Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:36 am

I think the best genre for drawing you into the world and just capturing your imagination is the RPG genre. Final Fantasy VII, Dragon Quest VIII, Ni No Kuni, Final Fantasy IX, Final Fantasy X. It feels like you are invited into a new world and welcomed with open arms.

by SanAndreasX Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:42 am

BretBaber wrote:I think the best genre for drawing you into the world and just capturing your imagination is the RPG genre. Final Fantasy VII, Dragon Quest VIII, Ni No Kuni, Final Fantasy IX, Final Fantasy X. It feels like you are invited into a new world and welcomed with open arms.

This all the way.

by pspiddy Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:53 am

You nailed it, Bret.

by BretBaber Wed May 01, 2013 11:58 pm

So I decided to boot this game up again and continue my path of platinum glory. All I need is 4 scrolls of truth to get the one alchemy trophy. I still do not understand how I haven't got the 2000 glim trophy. Maybe I'm wrong, but aren't the glims the blue, green, and gold things that recover magic, hit points, and grant you a version of limit breaks? I do not understand how I haven't got 2000 yet. Seems like I get an average of 3-4 a match now.

by pspiddy Thu May 02, 2013 12:12 am

Yeah, all of those are glims. I'm pretty sure you have to get 2000 glims on a single toon. It's a pretty vague trophy. I know I didn't get it until post game when I was farming for the familiar trophy.

As far as the scrolls of truth, I think I posted how I farmed them and it took, like, a couple of hours or less.

Damn, I need to get back to that game and tame a golden Draggle. I killed a bunch of those and no hearts Sad

by BretBaber Thu May 02, 2013 12:25 am

Golden draggle is the one in the Glittering Grotto, right? If so I got one tamed today when I played. Also, I got a scroll of truth from some enemy in the Glittering Grotto. It is the only one I have, and I haven't seen anywhere mention that you can get one from the Glittering Grotto. Needless to say I was pumped for the freebie. I was actually reading your strategy earlier today. I was clueless as to where I left off because I hadn't played the game in a month and a half, so I needed your reminders to even get me back on the right path again. I'm currently saved at the Tombstone Trail and will begin my quest tomorrow.

by pspiddy Thu May 02, 2013 1:19 am

There are two Draggle mobs in Glittering Grotto. One is the first form and another is one of the final forms. I want the first form so I can max it out. What's shitty is I've tamed the Dragette and whatever the final form's name is, but that plain Draggle HATES me.

by BretBaber Thu May 02, 2013 1:23 am

I think I got the draggle. Once I evolve the next familiar I'm gonna use whichever one I got, so I'll let you know if I got that one.

I'm just hoping and praying these honker tonkers give me the scroll of truth without much fuss.

by BretBaber Thu May 02, 2013 10:58 am

Got the alchemy quest complete! Getting the scrolls of truth was actually very easy. It literally took me no more than 20 minutes for some reason. I came across 5 honker tonkers and 4 of them dropped them with just a simple Swaine mugshot. I didn't even get a gold glim to get them. Every time I saw that he successfully stole a scroll of truth I did a fist pump. 4 out of 5 honker tonkers using only mugshot plus that random one I got from glittering grotto made me super pumped. Every where I read online (including from you) said roughly 2 hours. Just under 20 minutes had me extremely pleased.

by pspiddy Tue May 14, 2013 9:43 pm

pspiddy wrote:OK Bret(or monkey or whatever you go by online), I'm on that alchemy mission right now.

!!MINOR SPOILER ALERT!!

I'm not sure what item is giving you a problem but I will assume it's the Scroll of Truth. Here's how I'm farming it with moderate success-

On the Tombstone Trail go to the last save point and save. Now go back into the cave and take a right at the first fork. You'll cross a bridge and end up at a dead end with a chest(be careful, there's a slow curse at foot of chest). Go back and forth between the chest and the fork scaring away any mob that isn't a Golden Honker. The Golden Honker you can steal the Scrolls from is called a Honky Tonker. Set your party at "Don't Do Anything" and "All-Out Defense". Switch to Swaine. You now have two options-

1- Wait for a Golden Glim to drop and then use Swaine's special (light fingers or whatever) for a %100 chance at the Scroll, or
2- Take a chance and steal from the Honky Tonker after he casts his "Love" spell(I forget the specific name but it has Love in it and the animation has hearts like Esther's Tame.

Or you can just poke your eyes out and bang your head against a wall.

I really enjoy the post game content. I'm at 73% trophy completion. 50 familiars short of 250, 68% alchemy, 97% wizard's companion and the Alchemy quest are all I think I have left. And then I try and nab all of the Golden familiars. That will suck.

The only thing I can add to this is to FIGHT EVERY MOB. As for the other item you need(I forget the name) go to Glittering Grotto. Save at the last save point and do a circle around the area with the last save point being "home base". Fight all of the mobs using the method stated above. One of those Golden Draggles- or whatever the evolved name is- drops the other item needed to complete the alchemy quest.

by BretBaber Tue May 14, 2013 11:41 pm

I wish the list would tell you what you have already done. I've done some and I have no idea which ones I've done.

by pspiddy Wed May 15, 2013 1:05 am

I'm confused. What do you need for the plat, Bret?

by BretBaber Wed May 15, 2013 10:05 am

There are a couple trophies I still need, but the one that I look at that really makes me sad is the 100% alchemy trophy. It would be fine if it told me what I already did, but it doesn't and now I don't remember.

by pspiddy Wed May 15, 2013 12:46 pm

Anything you've crafted will have a visible icon. It perplexed me at first too. Not the best of systems, eh?

by SanAndreasX Wed May 15, 2013 1:13 pm

I'd kind of like to know how close I am to getting the trophy for 2000 glims myself. That's one thing I like about the Tales series - those games tell you exactly how much of x or y you've done.

The strategy guide does do a good job of outlining what you need to do for the trophies.

by BretBaber Thu May 16, 2013 12:06 am

I didn't know there was an icon. That makes it less daunting now. I'll have to look it up. I've played 75 hours and finished 1000 battles a long time ago and still haven't got the 2000 glims. I doubt it will ever come at this point.

by pspiddy Thu May 16, 2013 12:18 am

If I remember this correctly, in your recipe book there will be a "?" next to any item you haven't crafted. Whereas what you HAVE crafted will have an image.

If I'm wrong I can boot up the game and check, but I'm pretty sure that's the case.

by BretBaber Fri May 17, 2013 2:40 am

You're right. I'm now at 57%. I think I'm gonna run around every section in order of the start of the game and try to steal items when possible. Other than 100% alchemy I can't think of any other hard trophies besides the 2000 glim trophy which will never come.

by BretBaber Fri May 17, 2013 2:58 pm

Funny story. Today I thought "What if Oliver has to get the glims and not the familiars?" So I was destined to only use Oliver in fights unless it was a tough one, and after my first match the trophy ding popped up and I got my 2000 glims. So maybe you have to use an actual character?

by pspiddy Fri May 17, 2013 3:47 pm

Grats on finally getting the trophy. Now that I think about it, I dinged the trophy using Swaine while farming for alchemy materials.

by Miraculous Kaydybug Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:34 am

I say this as someone who hates Studio Ghibli (mostly their animation, the stories ain't bad, but the animation is bleh.) I'm twelve hours in and EVERYTHING (that isn't an anime cutscene, fuck those) is amazing. Screenshots and videos do not do this game justice it is obscenely beautiful, did i mention i hate Ghibli animation, but JESUS FUCKING CHRIST in game it all just looks so gorgeous. Its one of those games where im going to spend more time wandering around like a fucking moron staring at shit than actually playing. Love combat too just got the ability to recruit monsters. Theres a ton of depth here. Can tell I'll be spending a ton of time on this.

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by pspiddy Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:46 am

Lol, nice.

Why don't you dig Studio Ghibli, Kay? The animation and art direction is superb. I'm not a fanboy or anything, I'd just like to know what you don't like about it.

Also, glad you're into the game^^

by Miraculous Kaydybug Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:52 am

Not a fan of the character designs and how they are animated. Not really sure why they just always look off to me. It all looks SO MUCH better in the game though.

by pspiddy Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:56 am

Ah! Framerate and tweening. I agree. The key animators do a great job but the tweeners leave a stuttering mess. With the 3D animators in the game it wasn't a problem. I totally understand.

by BretBaber Thu Jun 20, 2013 9:15 am

The Last of Us is out now and I still pick Ni No Kuni for game of the year. Now the only thing that can beat it for me is Killzone: Shadow Fall.

by SanAndreasX Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:32 am

Unless Tales of Xillia turns out to be incredibly fucking amazing, Ni no Kuni is going to be my GOTY.

by volvocrusher Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:42 am

Picked this back up after The Last of Us made me need the most lighthearted game imaginable. Just got the wand from his Meowjesty. The game's pretty charming and I can see how the battle system can improve, but it's just okay right now. Hope there's not too much of take/give heart stuff, hated that earlier. Have to turn away during cutscenes too, hate this animation. But it's doing enough right to keep me playing for now.

by Miraculous Kaydybug Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:46 am

The Take/Give Heart stuff is pretty much just used in side quests after its introduced

by lenny.b Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:37 am

Although I feel Ni no Kuni (I'm only in Almamoon, so far) is a great game, I feel as though it's a lot slower-paced than I would have initially thought or anticipated it to be. It really seems "child-like" when I play it, but the fact that studio ghibli created it, I really enjoy the animation style. It's not even too far off from Level 5's Rogue Galaxy. Rogue Galaxy, however, felt a lot more ... "grown up", I guess(?) with much fewer tutorial scenes.

Oh well. It's become a little more entertaining with a second party member, now. I'll probably write a review when I'm done (if I'm done before the next term starts).

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