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Re: Next Gen Consoles

Post by Krubixcube on Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:20 am

Oh Neph, you do know how to charge angrily into a crowd don't you?

Greenman makes a good point, EA almost collapsed a few years ago and people wrote it off. All the sudden it's the most important thing ever again? We all have the internet now, it does make more sense to deliver more content directly to consumers.

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Post by volvocrusher on Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:37 pm

Yeah, there's two reasons MS didn't do that: 1. E3 was really important back then 2. They didn't have anything like Nintendo Direct. If they have a Nintendo Direct the same time as E3 (or hell, even 2- 1 for each system) then what is the fucking difference between that and E3? I'll tell you what it is- an easier way to get it out to fans to watch it with the option to use their 3DS or Wii U for those without a computer available. That's not phoning it in, that's fucking smart.

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Post by Miraculous Kaydybug on Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:32 pm

Remember when Sony and Microsoft basically spent nearly all the time in their conferences during "the biggest gaming conference in the world" to show off things like The Move and Kinect to filthly casuals?

Nintendo Direct is a great idea it gives things directly to people interested in in Nintendo products and skips past all the other guys. Why would they waste time and money at E3 when they've been doing those so regularly.

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Post by ajapam on Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:19 pm

I wish everyone would do something like Nintendo Direct... Every year I see conferences that drag on and on with only a few things I really care about seeing. I didn't care about most of the latest Nintendo Direct, but it at least seemed efficient and there wasn't a crazy amount of hype over it so I wasn't guaranteed to be disappointed
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Post by Bannen on Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:11 pm

I can't wait to hear how Microsoft is going to include streaming ESPN content with their new console.

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Post by Captain N on Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:18 pm

I'm going to miss Nintendo at E3, though they did say they will be there, just not going to have a big presentation as usual. But I like these Nintendo Directs, they're short and they give you want people actually want: game news and announcements without dragging for an hour or 2. All in all, it saves me the time not waking up for their presentation anymore.

@Neph, yeah my Gamecube was tossed and tumbled everywhere and it was sturdy. That's one of the reasons I liked it. I know I could of gotten another GCN but I got a Wii instead since it plays GCN games anyway.
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Post by TripOpt55 on Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:23 pm

I don't think the lack of press conference or whatever is a big deal either. Media will still play their games, and we'll read preview of them, and they'll announce new games in that time period. I mean in the past few years Sony showed most of their big stuff before E3 anyway and then the conference was completely lackluster. But not because they didn't have a compelling upcoming lineup of games. Just because we had seen that stuff before. As long as they show interesting new stuff in and around this time period for the Wii U which is obviously not doing well, I don't think it will be a big deal.

I do kind of miss the madness of everything being saved for E3, just because it was kind of fun to me. Just all that stuff at once was just so much fun, but winning E3 has always been unimportant and showing stuff beforehand like Sony has the last few years has made sense as it doesn't get lost in a sea of other games.
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Post by SanAndreasX on Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:36 pm

E3 is something of an anachronism. It still has some importance, but it's mostly showing off non-gaming applications and showing off stuff everyone already knew about. Most companies announce new things at their own private gatherings.

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Post by Nephilimi on Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:26 pm

I'm not arguing with you guys about E3. It's not the big deal it used to be, it's not even a big deal, and it doesn't make sense to show your A material at E3 when you can have your own conference.

But you're missing the point that E3 is just one of those things you have to do. Especially if your name is Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo. You can sit in your mom's basement all night long coming up with reasons why prom is stupid, and you might be one hundred percent correct, but you're still a tool for not going.

It sends a huge message to just not have a presentation.

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Post by volvocrusher on Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:30 pm

I never went to prom. I got wasted with my friends up at the river instead. I think you're more of a tool if you say it's just something you have to do. If one option makes more sense than the other, why would you do the other just because some people who will get over it say you "have to"?

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Post by Krubixcube on Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:34 pm

I think it's something you have to do until enough companies figure out that E3 is indeed shit and decide themselves they can't be bothered with it.

I don't know, Neph, it just makes sense to me. Save your big expo funding on PAX or a first party event.

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Post by Nephilimi on Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:46 pm

volvocrusher wrote:I never went to prom. I got wasted with my friends up at the river instead. I think you're more of a tool if you say it's just something you have to do. If one option makes more sense than the other, why would you do the other just because some people who will get over it say you "have to"?

You take the option that doesn't make sense in a lot of situations because of responsibility. Maybe your work parties suck. You still go because you have to. It says volumes about you as an employee if you just don't show up, even if it's the most awkward night of the year and you got so drunk you spat all over the head legal assistant. Prom is a more person decision, I suppose, but you still missed out on a once in a lifetime night, even if you argue that it's overrated and whatnot. Life's full of decisions that don't make sense because someone expects you to do it.

But Nintendo is a company with a huge amount of responsibility and a reputation to maintain. You pay the money to show up at big events. You market yourself, etc.

Enough big companies might figure that E3 is a waste of time, but they haven't done that yet. It is still considered the biggest conference in the world even if that rings hollow to most gamers. And Nintendo "leading the charge" to move away from E3 on the year their console is floundering kind of stinks.

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Post by volvocrusher on Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:09 am

Except work parties DO make more sense for the reason you provided. If it doesn't make sense for a company to attend E3, they shouldn't do it just because it does for others. If E3 ends up not needed because of this, it may be a bummer at first, but if it's not needed, why keep it?

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Post by TripOpt55 on Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:14 am

I got the idea they just aren't doing the press conference, but will be showing that stuff to us via a Nintendo Direct and to like the non-fan/press people (retailers and the like) via private meetings.
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Post by Rainjar on Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:57 am

Nephilimi wrote:

But you're missing the point that E3 is just one of those things you have to do. Especially if your name is Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo. You can sit in your mom's basement all night long coming up with reasons why prom is stupid, and you might be one hundred percent correct, but you're still a tool for not going.


I didn't go and I'm glad. Every other poor bastard got suckered into spending way too much on a night most of them didn't even enjoy with people they didn't like whereas I got a comfy night in doing what I want as usual before going round a friends after they all got back.

I see no reason for Ninty to go to E3 for big ol' presentation either. Their Direct service or whatever seems to work just as well. Also it means there'll be one less shit presentation to watch so I'm all for it.

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Post by Captain N on Fri Apr 26, 2013 6:16 pm

Yep, they never said they weren't going, they will be there, it's just that they wont have a big ass presentation. People will still get their news either way and I'm happy with that. Plus Nintendo Direct works just fine, I mean these couple of ND's they've announced some big games that could of easily been E3 announcements.
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Post by volvocrusher on Sat May 04, 2013 3:51 am

So, thoughts on Illumiroom? I think some ideas look kind of gimmicky, but at the same time, that is such an awesome use of technology. Even if it proves too impractical with how you need to set up your room, I can at least see that being an amazing thing for movies.

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Post by Krubixcube on Sat May 04, 2013 6:41 am

My girlfriend and I were watching the video you posted and she, being too-cool-for school has a projector, and pointed out that what it's doing...is pretty much what a projector already does. It's an interesting idea for sure but I don't necessarily see how it would seriously enhance the gaming experience.

I have to disagree on the movie thing though, I'd find the image hitting my furniture extremely off-putting. With how expensive this would be...just buy a projector.

Speaking of which, next time I get a home movie set up, I'm getting a projector. My girlfriend's projector makes game of thrones night the best thing ever.

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Post by ajapam on Sat May 04, 2013 11:49 am

I like snow thing. My room could use more snowfall. I think a lot of the other things would just be distracting, though

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Post by Motinator on Sat May 04, 2013 6:43 pm

That looks pretty impressive. Just seems like it would be too much of a hassle.
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Post by volvocrusher on Mon May 20, 2013 3:27 pm

So anyone else here want to use the chat for the Nextbox reveal?

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Post by TripOpt55 on Mon May 20, 2013 6:57 pm

If I'm around I definitely will.
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Post by ajapam on Mon May 20, 2013 9:32 pm

I can do 1pm eastern.

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Post by avidacridjam on Tue May 21, 2013 9:06 am

Count me in.

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Post by volvocrusher on Tue May 21, 2013 3:10 pm

So we're all in agreement that the reveal sucked, right?

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Post by Miraculous Kaydybug on Tue May 21, 2013 3:56 pm

i didnt watch any of it but all the stuff read about it made me glad i slept through most of it.

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Post by chocobot on Tue May 21, 2013 4:41 pm

The dog in Call of Duty was pretty cool. I really liked that dog :P

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Post by Miraculous Kaydybug on Tue May 21, 2013 5:17 pm

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