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Re: Metal Gear Series Discussion

Post by volvocrusher on Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:35 pm

Maybe because cyborg ninjas, bipedal tanks that launch nukes, and cloned soldiers made people see it as a sci-fy series so when it introduced more of those elements, people who actually like sci-fy thought "Well that makes sense." That is until they introduced those stupid explanations.

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Re: Metal Gear Series Discussion

Post by Miraculous Kaydybug on Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:44 pm

I always thought MGS was science fiction.

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Re: Metal Gear Series Discussion

Post by BretBaber on Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:39 pm

MGS had some weird stuff, but nothing too weird or out there. With each game he just gets weirder and weirder.

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Re: Metal Gear Series Discussion

Post by Krubixcube on Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:45 pm

MGS is science fiction in the same way something like Neuromancer is science fiction. There is science in there somewhere but it's far out there...well, MGS more so than Neuromancer.

I agree, the less explanation the better. I don't need to know WHY the fear crawls around on the ground and eats stuff, or WHY the four leged battle mech could actually work just...fucking, I want to fight it.

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Re: Metal Gear Series Discussion

Post by Krubixcube on Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:19 am

Also this is late but MGS5 trailer...fucking excellent choice of song. *nod nod*

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Re: Metal Gear Series Discussion

Post by Motinator on Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:07 pm

Krubixcube wrote:Unfortunate timing but I'm pretty sure that David Hayter isn't coming back. According a news report today (April 1st...yeah, I know) but also one last week as well.

Could be an elaborate ruse knowing Kojima but common...DAVID HAYTER...DAVID FUCKING HAYTER.

So is no one else upset by this?
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Re: Metal Gear Series Discussion

Post by Krubixcube on Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:25 pm

I'm really upset if it remains to be true.

That said...it isn't Snake, it's Big Boss. And they may be clones but I always felt it was kind of weird that Snake and Big Boss had the exact same voice considering liquid and solidus were clones as well.

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Re: Metal Gear Series Discussion

Post by KillaAssassin11 on Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:30 pm

Not having Hayter is disappointing but I cant really say it upsets me. Kojima chose to go in a different direction and I trust he has his reasons.

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Re: Metal Gear Series Discussion

Post by Krubixcube on Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:15 am

To be honest I think he kind of screwed up making Hayter Big Boss in MGS3...but the MGS fan inside of me cries.

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Re: Metal Gear Series Discussion

Post by Miraculous Kaydybug on Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:33 am

I know people don't like it, but honestly I'm perfectly fine with it. It makes sense to me cause.

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Post by Krubixcube on Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:40 am

Every time I try to forget about that plot twist SOMEONE has to bring it up...

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Re: Metal Gear Series Discussion

Post by Miraculous Kaydybug on Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:18 am

I don't know that plot twist made no sense but I liked the scene we got because of it. Though i still wanna know

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HOW THE FUCK DID HE GET THAT OLD FUCKER OUT OF THE NURSING HOME!?

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Re: Metal Gear Series Discussion

Post by volvocrusher on Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:21 am

Krubixcube wrote:Every time I try to forget about that plot twist SOMEONE has to bring it up...
Maybe you shouldn't visit threads called "Metal Gear Discussion" then.

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Re: Metal Gear Series Discussion

Post by Krubixcube on Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:57 am

I know...but I literally forget it happened. It was so stupid my mind kind of shut it out.

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I remember me and my friend who I was working with at the time were playing MGS4 at the same time. And I remember saying to him one night "if they come out at the end with something retarded like 'Big Boss was alive the whole time!' I'm going to be pissed". Then...sure enough, that night.

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Post by Krubixcube on Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:03 pm

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/09/04/kojima-making-metal-gear-solid-v-characters-more-erotic

Not sure if I see his mindset on this...specifically, his attitude that his designs will MAKE people cosplay. And that people are just itching to cosplay as MGSV characters if only people could be leaked the new "more erotic" designs.

Just...write good, compelling characters and people WILL cosplay as them. It's kind of doing things backwards

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Re: Metal Gear Series Discussion

Post by Miraculous Kaydybug on Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:21 pm

The fuck did I just read

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Post by Krubixcube on Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:09 am

Exactly.

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Re: Metal Gear Series Discussion

Post by Miraculous Kaydybug on Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:50 pm

Honestly it just sounds like Kojima is trying to fuck with people, again, and he's getting the press involved too which is hilarious.

Here's an image he's been passing around its apparently a character in MGSV



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Post by BretBaber on Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:49 pm

^ That's the kind of outfit I'd go to combat in.

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Post by volvocrusher on Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:30 pm

I stopped questioning the practicality of combat outfits after Mass Effect 2.

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Post by Krubixcube on Sun Sep 08, 2013 6:45 pm

Yeah, but at the end of the day if that ends up being the actual character design he can "fuck with us" all he wants, it's still pretty bad.

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Post by BretBaber on Sun Sep 08, 2013 10:59 pm

I love all Metal Gear Solid games, but I wish he'd go back to the simplicity of the original MGS game. The only real bizarre villain was Psycho Mantis, and to a certain degree Cyborg Ninja. Each new game gets crazier and crazier, and that stuff really annoys me.

The first one didn't have anything crazy with the story, it was a believable scenario with believable characters. Guns were normal. Everything was simple about the game, yet surprisingly deep. Now he's got characters that turn into swarms of bees, characters that bleed white, hands being transplanted to other people and carrying personalities. He's getting too wrapped up in the science fiction. He's got Zone of Enders for that shit.

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Post by volvocrusher on Mon Sep 09, 2013 2:39 am

I love MGS's goofiness personally. It isn't always done well (Ocelot's hand and anything involving nanomachines comes to mind), but I love when something takes place in a modern day setting, then some weird shit pops out of nowhere and everyone just accepts it. Guys who read minds, control bees and perform photosynthesis? Yeah, they exist, now kick their asses. I have Splinter Cell or Deus Ex for a more grounded stealth game, so if chasing a fat guy on roller skates means I get to battle a guy who has electric powers, I am willing to make that sacrifice.

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Post by BretBaber on Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:58 am

I make the sacrifice because the games are great, but I wish I didn't have to.

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Post by Krubixcube on Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:27 am

I'm with Bret, MGS was cool because the wackiness was present just played down and most importantly not explained. Psycho mantis was pyschic...cuz magic and shit. Which is how I prefer my paranormal.

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Post by Krubixcube on Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:55 am

Yeah...it's rare (at least, in the websites/magazines I've seen) to see game interviewers really ask interesting/hard questions. I can think of scores of interviews about movies and music that I've though "wow...that's a hell of a question" but not so much with games. Maybe I'm just looking at the wrong websites. A lot of game journalists (not all, I know) tend to just come across in their work as fanboys and it kind of annoys me.

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Re: Metal Gear Series Discussion

Post by Rainjar on Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:24 am

pspiddy wrote:
Remind me why Kojima is to be paid attention to when he is a writer or movie maker and not a gamemaker?

Because when he occasionally remembers that he is infact making a video game he pulls some absolutely crazy shit that tops 90% of other video games alone. Plus the stuff he posts on Twitter is pretty amusing.



And spoilers, games journalism is shit. Of course there's no difficult questions, wouldn't want to upset the publisher and not get that early review copy after all!

Krubixcube wrote:http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/09/04/kojima-making-metal-gear-solid-v-characters-more-erotic

Not sure if I see his mindset on this...specifically, his attitude that his designs will MAKE people cosplay. And that people are just itching to cosplay as MGSV characters if only people could be leaked the new "more erotic" designs.

Just...write good, compelling characters and people WILL cosplay as them. It's kind of doing things backwards


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Post by Krubixcube on Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:24 am

So he's pretentious...

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Post by Rainjar on Sun Feb 16, 2014 12:58 pm

How?

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