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Post by Miraculous Kaydybug on Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:34 am

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Thought I'd make a Metal Gear thread since a lot of use are playing Rising, and we seem to have a lot of MG fans here anyways.
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Post by volvocrusher on Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:53 am

Anyone out there who wants to do a Peacewalker playthrough? I really want to play through it doing co-op.
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Post by Miraculous Kaydybug on Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:58 am

I still need to finish that game. I made it to the halfway point. It's fucking long. Anyways, I might haven't tried co-op yet
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Post by b.b.hagen on Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:49 pm

I'm interested in doing a co-op run. The only problem is that it'll probably take months to beat it with my schedule.
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Post by volvocrusher on Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:00 pm

I'm in the same boat. A couple hours once a week is all I can probably do.
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Post by b.b.hagen on Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:12 pm

That works. Whats your Saturday nights look like? I get out of work at 4 so Saturday would probably be best for me.
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Post by volvocrusher on Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:16 pm

My work schedule's all over the place so it'll vary, but I can do Saturday this week.
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Post by Bannen on Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:35 pm

I still have never made it very far in MGS3... Played 1,2,and 4 though.
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Post by volvocrusher on Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:52 pm

3 is the best. If there's one MGS game that needs to be played, it's that one.
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Post by Motinator on Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:18 pm

How does co-op work in PW? I need to play it as well.
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Post by SanAndreasX on Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:22 pm

volvocrusher wrote:My work schedule's all over the place so it'll vary, but I can do Saturday this week.

Which system are you playing on?
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Post by volvocrusher on Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:23 pm

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Post by SanAndreasX on Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:24 pm

volvocrusher wrote:PS3

I might be willing to do a playthrough. I have the MGS HD Collection on PS3, but I haven't done much other than play the first couple of hours of MGS2.
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Post by Miraculous Kaydybug on Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:24 pm

volvocrusher wrote:3 is the best. If there's one MGS game that needs to be played, it's that one.
This also i have PW on PS3 too
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Post by b.b.hagen on Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:30 pm

I think anyone who's played the whole MGS series pretty much agrees 3 is the best. I guess the only other option would be MGS.
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Post by volvocrusher on Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:03 pm

Every now and then you get a weirdo who thinks 4 is the best. They're normal compared to the people who won't shut up about how much of a masterpiece 2 is.
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Post by SanAndreasX on Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:29 pm

My favorite was Metal Gear on the NES. Smile
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Post by TripOpt55 on Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:35 pm

I enjoyed 1. I got about halfway through 2 on a PS2 copy and my PS3 died so I lost my save. Not only does my new PS3 not have BC, but I don't really feel like playing half of 2 again. It seems to have lost all sense of balance that 1 had. In 1 they switched you fairly regularly between stealth sections, boss fights and talking parts. This game has groan-worthy long sections of talking/cutscenes where you don't get to do much at all as far as actual gameplay. I'd like to get to 3 (though whether it'd be better in that regard or not I have no clue), but I think I need to beat 2 first even if 3 is a prequel.
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Post by Miraculous Kaydybug on Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:44 pm

4 was good but it didn't feel like much of a game. 3 actually balanced the gameplay with the cutscenes and besides that it was amazing anyways.

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Post by volvocrusher on Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:48 pm

How good a MGS game is depends on how much Ocelot is involved. And not that Liquid Revolver Ocelot crap, I'm talking the real deal.

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Post by Miraculous Kaydybug on Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:52 pm

Young Ocelot is kind of cute too...I mean.

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Post by b.b.hagen on Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:14 pm

Trip, you should honestly just skip 2 and play 3. Chonologically, MGS3 is the first part of the story anyway.

MGS2 is the worst in the series in my opinion, but its still better than most video games out there.
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Post by Miraculous Kaydybug on Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:23 pm

There are a few links to 2's story in 3 but its not really needed to enjoy it. You should play 2 if you're going to play 4 or Revengeance though. it plays a much larger part in those.

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Post by avidacridjam on Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:09 am

MGS2 had great gameplay but I'd agree that the story went fucking bonkers in the 2nd half. Still, lots of good moments.

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Post by volvocrusher on Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:26 am

I thought 2 was a step down in gameplay also. The bosses were less inventive and fun, the pacing was a step down, and some bits like the swimming sections and that sniping mission were awful. Plus, the area was so much more boring than Shadow Moses. Still a good game, but not up to par with 1, 3, and 4.

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Post by Miraculous Kaydybug on Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:06 am

Gameplay was a mixed bag to me. Some area's it surpassed 1 substantially (it controlled a lot better, enemies had to call for back up, etc) others it took huge steps back in (boss fights, all the annoying parts. Finding the bombs, the swimming, and the part where you had to use the Nikita was even worse in 2 and i hated that in 1) and yes Big Shell was a lot more boring than Shadow Moses it only like had 3 colors orange, green and blue. bleh

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Post by avidacridjam on Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:22 pm

Yes, some elements weren't as good but the game still made for an enjoyable experience. If I tried it again (and I have the Vita version) I'd probably feel different.

I always remember this one goof during the battle with the drone plane (?) and you have to shoot it down with a rocket launcher while Snake and Otacon are in the helicopter overhead distracting it. At one point I tried to fire a rocket at the plane while it was making a pass and I accidentally hit the helicopter; at that point I hear Snake yell "WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING?" and Otacon saying the same thing over the Codec.

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Post by Krubixcube on Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:45 am

volvocrusher wrote:Every now and then you get a weirdo who thinks 4 is the best. They're normal compared to the people who won't shut up about how much of a masterpiece 2 is.

Where's Neph right now? =p

But yeah, 3 is by far the best in the series. "METAL GEAR SOLID TUEU IS A POSTMODERN MASTERPIECE BECAUSE THEY QUOTE PHILOSOPHY AND CONSPIRACY THEORIES IN THE CUTSCENES FOR A GOD DAMN HOUR!"

Shove it up your butt. Yeah, some clever things were done, but some clever things were done in a lot of shitty things. Well, to be fair I still like MGS2 quite a bit, but I recognize its heavily flawed nature.

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Post by BretBaber on Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:33 pm

Trip you should just go out and get the HD collection. MGS 2 looks great, and 3 looks even better. Also, you can probably find it for $20-$30, and that's a steal for three great games. Out of all of the HD collections, it is between this and Ratchet for my favorite.

For those who haven't played Peace Walker with a buddy, you're missing out. It makes tackling the missions so much more fun. Also, cuts down the time of boss fights by a lot as well. Holy shit does it take forever to beat the final boss.

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Post by Nephilimi on Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:51 am

volvocrusher wrote:Every now and then you get a weirdo who thinks 4 is the best. They're normal compared to the people who won't shut up about how much of a masterpiece 2 is.

Well sign me up as a wierdo. 4 is one of the best games ever made and MGS2 has the best story ending of any video game ever. Only Kojima would tackle something as complex as critical theory in a video game when most people are too stupid to understand the Uncharted story. MGS3 is such a solid and awesome game and it's more balanced. I don't know. It's a toss up between MGS3 and 4 for me. It's too much of an apples and oranges comparison.

We had this lengthy debate a while ago Twolf and I still think I'm 100% right. MGS4 isn't bad, it's stylized. If you can't appreciate it then that's your fault but it was intentional and I don't think Kojima should change a thing.

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